Digging
deeper into the subject, with some of the more experienced,
I came to know that Mestre Irineu explained that “everything
that was done in the headquarters of the services was done
'in the astral', for the eternity"; therefore, when recognizing
that not always the marriages would last - and there isn’t
obligatorily a mistake in this case, if the destination is
accomplished - he didn’t think appropriate to conduct
the matrimonial ceremony during the course of a spiritual
service.
www.juramidam.jor.br
***
Juramidam x Juramidã
According to Ms. Percília Matos, his adoptive daughter and keeper of his hinário, Mestre Irineu wrote, from his own hands, Juramidam with termination in "m".
Marcos Camargo - CRF - Centro da Rainha da Floresta / São
Paulo
***
The
power of heaven:
The
people of that time accounts that, in such moments, when Mestre
Irineu invoked the power of heaven – “the force,”
in the Daime’s jargon – in a spiritual service,
"the trees swayed, the dogs barked, the cows ran in the
pasturage and we would even lay on the ground. It was everybody
slipping to the ground because nobody managed to remain even
seated! The force would pass very low. Very, very low, thus
like the wind in the snake’s skin. And it was such a
scream over here, a cry over there, ‘my master, help
me,’ 'my master, holds me!', that I don’t even
know how we managed to stand it.”
“I
was already drinking the Daime for quite some time and even
then I would always spend time doubting… then, my brother,
one night ‘things got ugly'. The force started to arrive,
I started to see it and I didn't have other option other than
run to his house (In his last years on earth Mestre Irineu
would not always attend, in the matter, the long danced services
- He lived close to the services headquarters). I Arrived,
knocked the door and I heard Ms. Peregrina:
" Who
is it?"
"That’s me… is Mestre there?"
"Come back another time - she said, whispering - Mestre
is sleeping!"
"Pipiu, asks him to come in… - I heard Mestre's
voice."
He
referred to her as “pipiu”… he opened the
door, waved for me to come in and I put myself to beg and
to apologize. While I was lost in laments and moaning he stood
up, opened the big window at the front of the house, rested
those two immense arms in the eaves, looked at me and said:
-
come here my son.
I got up the way I could, swallowing what I managed to swallow,
and I went there. When I stopped next to him his hands got
illuminated and a light ball was born on them.
– Look very closely…
– I…, Mestre?
– You can look, or are you afraid yet, with me at your
side?
I looked from up close and I saw the services headquarters.
The same headquarters where I was dancing a moment ago! They
were all there and I saw everybody very tiny, everybody playing
the maraca and dancing, and it was really them, in the headquarters
salão. I was the only one missing and I wasn't hearing
the music or the hymns…
– So, my brother, you are seeing God’s power…
and do you think that you can hide anything from me? Or is
this not a power?”
www.juramidam.jor.br
***
The
Miração:
It is said that Mestre once narrated a miração:
- “you can tell, as long as it is to teach, and not
only to gossip, as a gossiper…” (he would explain)
He
was walking along a road, cleaning all the dirt, because the
Virgin Mother, the Queen, was going to pass there. He was
taking away the bushes, plucking the stubs, letting the earth
smooth, but if he looked back everything had grown again.
All right!, and he would go back, turning to clean, to see
if he could go a little further, but if he looked back everything
was full of thorns, again! Then the Queen appeared and he
asked:
-
Oh, my Mother, what's going on? I clean, clean, clean, and
everything gets dirty again?
She answered:
- It is your brothers and sisters my son… it is your
brothers and sisters. It is your brothers and sisters…
- And what should I do then?
- Only when everything is, thus, like this…, She said,
with a gesture, and She showed a field of crosses.
***
Channeling:
Other
lineages can even do the good but here and there they 'punish'
with the bad. Here, there, the bad also penetrates, and inside
our lineage, it does not. This is what I have to say, because
Mestre always said:
"Who wants to follow and to learn something inside this doctrine
is with Daime, and there is no mixing with this, mixing with
that, neither to enter in others lineages."
He
was completely against incorporation because the Daime doesn’t
send anybody to come and tell you, the Daime shows it by itself… And
that’s why Mestre didn’t adopt, don’t you
know? He never adopted this thing of channeling because inside
the Daime’s lineage, if the brother or sister is ready,
you drink the Daime and go search for your lineage, your segment.
The brother or sister receives the message that is necessary.
The entity even comes and tells, and with the brother or sister
looking at the entity, or else the brother or sister hears
it or has it by intuition. But conscious! The message! There
is no need for a courier, don’t you know? He didn't
adopt these things because he used to say that it has more
lie than truth. That’s what he used to say:
" There is more lie than truth in these channeling lineages.
Where lays one truth, exists a hundred lies."
Percília Matos da Silva - www.juramidam.jor.br
***
With
delicacy Mestre Irineu answered once, when someone suggested
the adoption of other practices: " Look, don’t take me wrong, but here in my house we don’t
adorn it with other people’s flowers, no. It already
has the house decoration."
Daniel Acelino Serra - www.juramidam.jor.br
***
The
maraca while musical instrument:
A
synonym for maraca would just be a rattle. However, the maraca
used in the Daime rites has specific characteristics. They
are generally metallic rattles made of an average size can,
or small, usually those regular condensed milk, or mini cans,
with little steel spheres (rolling spheres) and a wooden handle.
However, there isn’t yet standardization and we can
find maracas of coconut, of gourd, wooden and of the most
random materials.
The
standardization, as the ideal established by Irineu Serra,
would be the maraca made of a can and to be possessed by every
fardado, being it part of the farda (ritual vestment). This
maraca must be played beating its top part on the palm of
the hand, in a constant tempo.
This
tempo would follow the music tempo. A piece of music in quaternary
tempo, such as the march, would have as demarcation (f –
f – f - F) where the last would be an upwards beat (Ruffle),
instead of being in the palm of the hand. A waltz, in ternary
tempo, would have as demarcation (F - F - f) and the mazurka,
in binary tempo, would have as demarcation (f - f - f - F
- F - F).
The
tempo, if correctly followed by everyone, is going to produce
the unisonant and cadenced sound, benefactor of the conscience
expansion.
The
standardization once idealized by Irineu Serra suffers over
several aspects. The first aspect would be the great array
of materials in the maraca production, which produces a differentiated
sound. The second aspect would be the own way of each person
to play it. There are people who play beating the maraca on
the palm of the hand, however, the people who use the hinario
(book of hymns) in one hand, in general, don't beat the maraca
on the palm, because the hand is full. Thus the person has
to beat the maraca up and down, a fact that by itself produces
a differentiated sound.
Some
people divert the beat of their maraca from the basic beat,
producing turnings and differentiated chiming. There is a
big problem and discussion concerning the beat of the maraca.
It was observed, during the interviews, that the followers
give big importance to it and make restrictions to the “volume”
of other followers’ beat, as well as restrictions to
these differentiated beats. For some occasions we had reports
like:
"A
great shaman for an interview regarding the maraca is Padrinho
Eduardo, from Ceu de Maria (SP). He gets very upset when he
listens to a ‘pasteurized’ maraca." (Jussara)
"In
the Flor das Águas, church of Pedro Malheiros, in São
Paulo, still when in Pedro’s garage, there were indigenous
maracas, but they were little used. Actually, they weren't
tuned maracas, adequate for the Daime's cult and I could even
call them rattles." (Eduardo Bayer – e-mail’s
interview)
"...there
isn’t necessarily a correct way (of playing it). I believe
that one can do the strong beat on his (her) own way as long
as paying attention to not loose the tempo and jeopardize
the rhythm, consequently the harmony of the work." (Alex
Guedes dos Anjos)
"...
a sister would say: pay attention to the height of the maraca!
Let’s Work with the most elevated energies, above of
the heart, never below." (Silvia)
"Also,
when poorly played and interpreted in its forces, alone or
together with a percussion that one couldn’t managed
to play, and there lays the end of the work, and the general
peia (hardship) kicks in and nobody else get along, in the
hymn and in the harmony of the salão, turned into that
tachycardia, accelerating and decreasing, and it is very difficult
a maraca poorly played." (Timberê – interview
by e-mail to the member of the Daime group in France)
“Statements
such as:
-
‘must contain 132 spheres’ (in allusion to the
total hymns of 'O Cruzeiro')
- ‘there are male and female maracas’
- ‘the maracas must sound in a specific note’;
or
- ‘there is a ritual way to confection them’,
are
superstitions of idolatrous purposes...”
"...
Mestre Irineu didn’t let anything determined regarding
the maracas, however had encouraged the standardization, reason
which they must be the most similar possible, and what is
truly important is to all of them to sound equally in the
following of the danced spiritual service, acting powerfully
in the followers psyche and facilitating the conscience expansion
that favors the spiritual service." (Luiz Carlos Teixeira
de Freitas in interview by e-mail, quoting his book, still
in printing process)
“The
maraca must be conveniently tuned. In thesis every fardado
should have a maraca and must know how to play it adequately,
within the rhythm demanded by the hymn. The command of the
work can limit the number of maracas if this way they think
is convenient." (Book of Ritual Norms, published by CEFLURIS)
We
realize, then, that it is appreciated the maraca played with
uniform sound. This way, having an inadequacy, it is up to
the “work's command” to determine the convenient
way to proceed, which can in some occasions end up in strong
discussions. There is also a debate concerning the maraca
tuning, however this aspect, as others, also does part of
all the discussion concerning the maraca while musical instrument.
E-mail
kindly sent by Florestan Neto - Céu da Fortaleza
/ Pauini - AM
***
Daimista X Uasqueiro (popular way of saying "ayahuasca
drinker"):
–
You remembered me a fact, seu Nica: Last year (1994)
I was having a chat with Ms. Peregrina - Mestre’s widow
- and at some point I mentioned the fact that I was a daimista…
then she interrupted me:
-
I would prefer that you uses the term that Mestre used. He
liked to say that he was a uasqueiro…
– uasqueiro!
– this… is this how he used to say seu Nica?
– Yes he did, and with much emphasis!
– Even after having named the drink as Daime?
– Yes, of Daime…
– Uasqueiro?
– uasqueiro, that’s him. He didn’t deny,
thus, the roots, isn’t that right?
– This caught my attention seu Nica…
this comment made by Ms. Peregrina really did caught my attention!
– I, sincerely, can mark it as a remark, to remain for
history. These are his words, let’s put it this way,
they are his words: we are, we were and we still continue
to be uasqueiros.
www.juramidam.jor.br
***
Guardianship:
Not
for other reasons that the Daime services have Guardians of
terreiro, door or salão, men and women prepared in
advance and kept attentive in the passing of the whole service,
ready to help who needs, to contain excesses, to give support
to the ones who fall or to assist who needs solace in face
of his (her) own misery and pain.
A
distraction, minimum as it can be, and a brother or sister
can get hurt or hurt others, as well as to compromise in some
measure the collective!
A
guardian of terreiro or of door doesn't examine with attention
just who, in the physical matter, enters the space, and the
way he (she) comes in. So important as that is to learn to
identify who arrives in the invisible, attracted to whereby
there occurs or habituated to accompany who there works, as
well as with what happens to whom there disintegrates in order
to get better reintegrated, by action and grace of the Holy
ghost.
Luiz Carlos Teixeira de Freitas
***
The Candle:
…because
of this there isn’t incense in each corner or a candle
in each corner: candle is about the table, in front of the
cross:
–
And if people wants to place a candle here, other candle there,
can it be?
– No, this has no foundation; to don't encourage much,
do the normal, only in the cross. Because there are people
who wants too many things, then already comes someone who
doesn’t have work experience and “pays the bill”!
Candle is to be really in the cross…
Daniel Acelino Serra - www.juramidam.jor.br
***
The Discipline:
"In
that time, with Mestre present in the matter, the discipline
was so strong that people had to be united; had to get united
to one another or then tell why the reason for a problem,
to make peace. If one had a bad face to the other, in the
morning, by afternoon they would make peace, don’t you
know? As they knew that they would drink Daime at night and
the Daime was going to 'kick in'… then Mestre asked
to the Queen of the Forest, a superior being, to place away
this discipline because he wanted to teach but he wanted to
teach with love, with love, for the people to understand,
don’t you know? Without being necessary so much discipline.
With that he removed the discipline and, perhaps, if still
remained this discipline, wouldn’t have so much disunion
as there is today. But he is the one who knows; he is the
one who knows why he did that, isn’t it?"
Percília Matos da Silva - Juramidam.jor.br
***
Rows
of the bailado:
Since
the early times that Mestre Irineu separated men and women
in the salão, except in the service table, disposing,
as we saw, men and women, and girls and boys, face to face
but distant. Then we must ask: besides the determination of
having a separation between genders, what is the criterion
to define "girls" and "boys"?
"In Mestre’s time it was to arrange the salão,
don’t you know? Men and boys, as well as women and girls,
have different mentality, isn’t it? Then, young men,
up to 18, and girls, while they compose like girls, stay in
the single' lines. After, they go to the men or women rows."
And there was some sort of "spiritual reason" to
establish the boundaries of what can be considered a "girl"?
perhaps associated to the virginity?
"No, it was to arrange the salão, to do order and
to arrange the people", says Percilia Matos da Silva.
Similar
explanation to this I found with rigorously everyone of the
elders with whom I could chat in Rio Branco, Acre, where weighs
the theme delicacy and the lack of discussing it with a man,
above all “foreign” (from outside Acre’s
circle). Many of whom go to the spiritual services with ornaments,
light make-up or nails painted with discretion, as it is normal,
beautiful and healthy, “like promised bride who is adorned
with her adornments".
It
is determined – across Brazil, however, that the girl’s
lines are "of the virgins". Well... and how to know
if a certain girl is "still a virgin"? To what they
answer: “it remains up to the conscience of each one.”
“It is a spiritual matter…,” they summarize.
But why the virginity issue, if does truly spiritual, determine
only the human beings of the female gender? Nobody answers,
because it regards the narrow morale habits and nothing more.
And,
thus, it is taken care the things that less interests, placing
aside what really matters!
www.juramidam.jor.br
***
Consciousness:
It must be said that can be, and there is, channeling with
the preservation of the conscience, like Mestre Irineu taught,
but the firm adoption of the will sovereignty principle requires
the interdiction of the conscience loss practices, usually
found in the candomblé and umbanda, that step-by-step
were established in the Daime centers all over Brazil.
Moreover,
however can occur strong corporal tremors in more intense
spiritual services, like it eventually happens, and also tells
a hymn – “the one who deserve is going to see
his (her) body tremble” –, Mestre Irineu always
taught that, when in touch with disincarnated, or enchanted,
to make no gestures, automatisms, 'tics', non usual corporal
postures or grimaces – “mungangos”, as they
say in Acre.
www.juramidam.jor.br
***
Antônio
Gomes' hinário:
By the way, an episode that mark in definitive the permanent
attitude of Mestre Irineu to never force or to induce anybody
to anything (if it wasn’t already enough the fact that
in the more of ten thousand words of his hinário, the
verb “to order”, in the first person, happens
only once, when in the hymn “Teacher” he affirms
that “Everyone have authority in their houses / I also
have authority over mine / They all remain without learning
/ I remain with my Queen”), is the happening regarding
the hinário of Antonio Gomes.
I
was taught that a certain hymn of Antonio Gomes was only to
be sung in healing services. However, when I knew that the
healing services conducted by Mestre Irineu were in pious
silence, reason why what had been taught to me wasn’t
suppose to happen, I sought to know more about it with Ms.
Adália de Castro Grangeiro, daughter of Antonio Gomes
and keeper of his hinário.
She
calmly related to me that, after her father's passage, Mestre
Irineu asked of her to place again the fifth hymn of the hinário
in the danced services, because Antonio Gomes, in life, left
it out of the hinário services by his own reasons,
however, according to her, “had never declared that
it wasn’t to place it…”
–
And did you place it back?
– Well, I even tried, but people weren't used to it,
they didn’t feel like rehearsing and I wasn’t
born to give orders…
– are you saying to me that Mestre asked and nobody
did?! And that this hymn is until today out of the danced
services just because they didn’t attend his request?
– yes…
– And what about Mestre? Didn’t he ask again?
– Oh! He never spoke twice the same thing, unless the
brother or sister didn’t understand and had asked for
an explanation. When he spoke, who had paid attention and
had wanted to obey, obeyed…
www.juramidam.jor.br
***
The
Feitor:
They tell that in between the feitores (Daime makers),
congregated around Mestre Irineu, was once installed a dispute:
who did the “best Daime”, in the sense of the
most well made Daime according with the procedures taught
by Mestre Irineu (total sexual abstinence for three days before
the harvest of the material – the vine, leaves and balsam
wood, always under the new moon cycle – and during the
making service: absolute abolition of thoughts or inappropriate
feelings to the virtues during all this period, variable from
seven to ten days; integral dedication to the making task
until the moment where the Daime, already made, be resting
in glass bottles, and never plastic ones).
Mestre
Irineu summoned his feitores and declared that on
a given day there would be a spiritual service dedicated to
this “merit conference, for ranks attribution”.
Everyone should bring a bottle of Daime and the bottles should
be placed in a table at the center of the service, and in
the bottle with the “best Daime” the ones present
would see a rose. Francisco Granjeiro, Manoel Cipriano, Raimundo
“Loredo” Ferreira, Sebastião Mota de Melo
and other Daime makers brought the bottles and, in a certain
point of the service, they all saw a rose sprout in the bottle
of Daime made by seu Loredo.
***
The official works:
I regularly visited Mestre, off the works. When I developed love for him, I would go there carrying a little bag. I would take lunch and I would lunch with him. Mestre Irineu wouldn't say a word at the table. I did not have the opportunity to see him bailando [in the works], but I saw him dancing. Saint Peter was a dancing party. His birthday had also a dancing party. One day I said to him,
“Mestre, I have so much to do... are we obligated to come to all the works?”
“Not at all. I demand of the officers to come in the official works,” he said.
“And which are the official works?”
“The official works are the ones of the Sacred Family: Saint Joseph; Saint John - who was Jesus’ cousin; Our lady of the Immaculate Conception; the date of birth of Jesus Christ; King’s Day; Holy week; Deads Day; And the president's birthday – Mr. Leôncio.
“You mentioned all the official works but you didn’t talk about your birthday anniversary…”
“Of this day I do not know about anything. I get very little...”
In that point came to me the comprehension that his birthday was not organized by him. It was done by his disciples. Close to Mestre’s passage he received a hymn warning. I was there in the first crisis that he had. In this time I was weak, afraid of the Daime like no one. And Mestre said to me,
"In the point that you are in, many run. Decrease your Daime (dose) in order to not run. Your Daime should be just a little, only for closing the body. And do not worry, that who goes slowly also arrives."
After this came the hymn that says, "They ordered me to come back / I am firm am going to work." He was happy. Soon after came the “I Stepped on The cold Earth.” He summoned a meeting and clarified:
“This hymn is not only for me. It is to everybody. Everybody that was born has to die. This way he conformed the people.
Wilson Carneiro de Souza - "Padrinho
Wilson"
***
Mestre's hand:
There is a story that people tell that Mr. Jacude went before Mestre Irineu and asked of this way:
“Mestre, I want to drink a Daime given by your hand”
Then Mestre said to Mr. Jacude,
“Go to Mr. Wilson Carneiro’s point and tell that I asked him to give you a Daime”
Mr. Jacude insisted,
“But Mestre, I want a Daime given by your hand”
Which Mestre answered,
“Then you go to Wilson Carneiro and take the Daime there”
Mr. Jacude walked away kind of sad because he wanted to receive the Daime from Mestre’s hand. But he went to the house of Padrinho Wilson and said that he asked Mestre for a Daime and that Mestre told for him (Wilson Carneiro) to serve it. Padrinho Wilson was serving the Daime to Mr. Jacude and when Mr. Jacude was about to hold the Daime (glass), he saw, instead of Padrinho Wilson’s hand, Mestre’s hand, black. Detail, Padrinho Wilson was white. Padrinho Wilson was a natural healer, a pleasure to be on his side in a healing work.
Marco Imperial
***
The astral:
"It happens, my brother, that even inside the spirituality exists a positive part and a negative one. It has the superior astral and has also the inferior, isn’t that so? So, if the person drink the Daime, gets into concentration and starts his (her) work and soon dives in the superior astral, all that they see is correct, isn’t it? But if the person does not enter the superior astral, stays in the inferior and only in the ‘babble’, nothing turns out right. It cannot come out right, don’t you know?"
Percilia Matos da Silva
***
Proselytism:
Whichever the way, it should be chosen and to do not be coerced or seduced to no one, reason which there should not be proselytism and Mestre Irineu taught that “one does not invites anybody to Drink Daime”
João Rodrigues Facundes
***
“He respected it so much, so much, so much, that once a person lived in his house, which I don’t even know for how many years… but really, for many years… who were even a leprous… and we called him 'Mouco' and his name was Luiz. He lived with Padrinho [Irineu], eating in his home, living of the Padrinho’s favors. Only that when I came to know him he slept already in a barn, the place to store the corn, the rice, the cassava… This 'Mouco' lived with him for all these years, seeing him drinking the Daime, giving Daime to many people and this 'Mouco' never asked to drink Daime and Mestre also never offered, never obliged, never called him out. After some time this 'Mouco' left, I think being hospitalized and he died, but to see how much he respected it. The most sublime thing that Mestre had was the Daime, and he never offered”.
Saturnino Brito do Nascimento – www.juramidam.jor.br
***
Account Daniel Acelino Serra, who didn’t even know about the Daime and that a few days after arriving in Rio Branco, coming from Maranhão, saw many people entering the house: “They were all getting seated in stubs and benches and soon later uncle came with a bottle and started to pour a drink to everybody. I remained just looking… dying of curiosity… until a moment in which he stared at me, in silence, for a while. Since I didn’t say anything he turned around and continued to pour that drink to the others. Then everybody started to quiet down and I stayed in my corner without understand a thing during the very long period of silence that they underwent. In the next day I asked him what it was”, which he answered,
“It is Daime”
“Daime!? What is it??? And why didn’t you give me some?
“Because you didn’t ask. You saw me giving it to everybody but you didn’t ask, and I shouldn’t offer…”
www.juramidam.jor.br
***
The head of the table:
“Sometimes Mestre would stay at home, leaving the work in the hands of his assistants; the table folks, because at that time the system was alike the one of a barrack and it had to start on time. Ms. Percília always arrived on time and she had his authorization to start the works. I, like the General Commander of the salon (attribution given by Mestre), would bid the members with the maracá. When Mestre was present he rarely stayed at the table, many times staying at the Daime’s room or in a chair in the right wing of the salon. The chair at the table would remain empty. When we less expected, he would sat down at the head of the table.”
Daniel Arcelino Serra, narrating Mestre’s last years of leadership in the Daime doctrine.
***
Fireworks:
“After the second day it was no longer necessary to drink the Daime, and from that point and beyond he entered into an ‘at work’ state, perfecting himself in such a way that everything was spirit. The forest also became a spiritual thing, of a so great dimension that the trees laughed at him; the wind blew on the trees branches that created limbs, wanting to grab him. The stains in the trees were like mouths laughing, talking, chatting, being it developed to such a point that he feared. It was giving a certain fear in him. Then -- as he walked with a hunting rifle -- in that emotional state he would fire a shot, and in the blast he would receive an encouragement and a comfort, what carries us to believe that this was the reason that carried him to insert, in fact with much emphasis, the fireworks during the work.”
Unknown
***
Reincarnation:
Sebastião Jacoud tells that those old followers of His (of Jesus Christ) -- some apostles and some of other categories (...) -- are thereabout incarnated in simple people, without importance in the national scenery, political or artistic, coming to attend his call, and here they are helping to carry on this Doctrine.
The oral tradition says that Mestre Irineu, sat down in his rocking chair, from the porch of his house -- in the today Vila Irineu Serra -- looking the people pass by on the streets, would say,
“Many of those that are walking by us lived in the time of Christ and they don’t even know it...”
Juarez Duarte Bomfim, in his book "O Jardim das Belas Flores”
***
About Mestre and the money
There is a passage of Mestre that well portrays how he regarded money.
Mestre was gathered with his brothers and sisters when Mr. Wilson Carneiro arrived. They were talking, along with other fellows, when at certain point Mr. Wilson says to Mestre: “Mestre, I brought you some help. You, that help everyone, must need some money.” After saying that, he pulled a high money bill and reached it over to Mestre, which, with an expression of dislike, asked Mr. Wilson to put the money in the pocket of his shirt with his own fingers.
A few minutes later one of Mestre’s neighbors arrived among them, saying that his family was sick and hungry. He came to ask Mestre for some help while he couldn’t find a job. Mestre asked Mrs. Peregrina to gather rice, beans, corn, manioc flower, tobacco, sugar, coffee and other goods to deliver it all to the man who was asking for help. The man, thankful, kneeled down before Mestre and vowed to never forget him. When the time came to bid farewell, Mestre asked the man to put two fingers in his pocket. For everyone’s surprise, and of the afflicted man, Mestre asked him to pick the money in the pocket that a few moments before Mr. Wilson had placed it.
The beggar told Mestre that he didn’t need the money, as he had already gotten a lot of food for more than a week. Mestre replied: “Go ahead, good man, take the money, because it will do more good to you than to me”. After these words, the man walked away.
The lesson given by Mestre to his disciples was this one; of the money. For this reason the argument of a few isn’t justified: “we have to support the church, the expenses, etc., etc., etc.”
According to the elders, Mestre never accepted financial help from politicians, authorities or healthy people to carry on with his mission and even less supporting his community. Mestre worked hard, with his sweat, but they tell that the rice, the corn and the beans lasted year after year to all 42 families that were gathered on his side. He never had to resort to those practices.
Marco Grace Imperial
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Mestre Irineu and Buddha
One day Mestre Irineu asked me if I knew something or at some point read a book with the word of Buddha.
“No, Mestre, not yet” (Replied Mr. João Facundes)
And Mestre said:
“Look for a book and read it”
Then, one day I was chatting with a lady that lived here and she said that Mestre had lent her the gospel of Buddha. Then I said:
“Wow, Mrs. Palmira! (she was Mrs. Palmira Xavier da Rocha) I said, lend it to me!”
So she did and I read it twice. When Mestre Irineu asked if I had like the reading, I said:
“I liked it, Mestre. A lot"
“What did you think of it?” (Mestre asked)
And I answered:
“Mestre, I didn’t see any difference in between him and you”
“No?!” (Said Mestre Irineu)
“No, sir, the only difference is that he was pagan”
Back then this is how they were called, right? And Christ was baptized. Then, this is the only difference. But the teachings are the same for me. Because one of the signals, and this I even said in his presence (Mestre), was when I read one of the sayings of Buddha upon being asked by a disciple:
“Buddha, you always talk about taking a trip. Are you coming back?”
He (Buddha) said:
“I'll be back! In another land and upon a different name.”
how many years passed since then? More than four hundred years. It then comes Christ with the same teachings. Then, after that Christ, Mestre Irineu. He came around the year 1892; A man with the same teachings. And for me is the same person (laughs) "(interview, May / 2007, Rio Branco - AC)
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